Body Odor
Body Odor

Body odor, in Aajonus's framework, is not a hygiene problem, a bacterial problem on the skin's surface, or a social failing. It is a direct physiological signal, an indicator that putrid gases have formed inside the body as a result of toxic chemical changes occurring internally, or as a result of eating foods with strong or chemically altered odors (for instance, garlic, broccoli, or chemically flavored processed foods). It is evidence that the body is working to eliminate something, that detoxification is occurring, that stored toxic tissue is finally being mobilized and expelled, and that poisons accumulated over sometimes decades of exposure to synthetic food, environmental chemicals, pharmaceuticals, and industrial compounds are now leaving the body through every available exit point, including the skin.

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Aajonus's Definition

Aajonus's Definition

Body odor, in Aajonus's framework, is not a hygiene problem, a bacterial problem on the skin's surface, or a social failing. It is a direct physiological signal, an indicator that putrid gases have formed inside the body as a result of toxic chemical changes occurring internally, or as a result of eating foods with strong or chemically altered odors (for instance, garlic, broccoli, or chemically flavored processed foods). It is evidence that the body is working to eliminate something, that detoxification is occurring, that stored toxic tissue is finally being mobilized and expelled, and that poisons accumulated over sometimes decades of exposure to synthetic food, environmental chemicals, pharmaceuticals, and industrial compounds are now leaving the body through every available exit point, including the skin.

In his most explicit written statement on the subject, he states: "BODY ODOR indicates that putrid gases have formed inside the body by toxic chemical changes, or by eating foods with strong odors, for instance, garlic or broccoli. Avoiding foods that easily putrefy in your body (cooked and/or processed foods) eliminates body odor. Putrid gases produced by the body when dissolving and eliminating old toxic storages can be eliminated, or at least mitigated, by eating fresh raw parsley, or ginger, or peppermint, or spearmint, or fresh raw juice from any of them. Celery juice and unripe pineapple relieve foul body odor."

Body odor is therefore understood within two distinct contexts in his framework: (1) the odor that arises from current dietary inputs, specifically cooked, processed, and chemically treated foods, and (2) the odor that arises during detoxification, when years or decades of stored toxic tissue, synthetic fragrances, chemical flavorings, pharmaceutical residues, industrial solvents, and other pollutants are finally being expelled through the skin, perspiration, mucous membranes, and other discharge pathways. Both are considered legitimate and understandable physiological events; neither is considered a disease or a sign of failure.

He also makes a distinction that is central to understanding his view: body odor that arises from eating raw, bacterially fermented or pre-digested foods, including high meat, high eggs, raw kefir, raw yogurt, does NOT produce body odor in the same way that cooked, putrefying food does. The reason he gives for this is that when fat cells containing odor-producing compounds are broken down and reabsorbed by the body, as happens with raw food, the odor disappears. It is only when cooked or processed food putrefies in the system that the odor migrates out through the skin and causes the body itself to stink like the decaying material in the intestines.

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Root Cause

Root Cause

Aajonus identifies multiple root causes of body odor, all fitting within his broader terrain theory framework:

A. Stored Toxic Tissue Being Expelled

The most fundamental cause of body odor on the Primal Diet is that when the body is finally given sufficient protein and raw fat through raw meat, dairy, and eggs, it gains the biological resources to begin expelling toxic tissue that has been stored for years or decades. This stored toxic tissue, built up from cooked carbohydrates, processed foods, synthetic flavorings, pharmaceutical residues, industrial chemicals, vaccines, and environmental pollutants, when it reaches oxygen as it is expelled through the pores of the skin, will putrefy instantly. As he says: "Once you provide the proteins, your body can dispel a lot of toxic tissue. And that tissue, as soon as it reaches oxygen, will putrefy instantly." This is not the food itself causing the odor, it is the stored, old, toxic cellular waste being mobilized.

B. Cooked and Processed Food as the Primary Ongoing Cause

Cooked food that putrefies inside the body, as opposed to raw food that is pre-digested by bacteria, will cause the skin to stink in the same way the bowel stinks. The odor from cooked putrefaction permeates the entire system, including the skin. He contrasts this with raw fermented/pre-digested food: "When it's raw, it doesn't have that effect because once the fat, and it's in the fat that stinks, fat cells, once those fat cells have been broken down again and reabsorbed, the odor disappears." With cooked food, the fat molecules are damaged and cannot be properly broken down and reabsorbed, so they carry their putrid character all the way out through the skin.

C. Synthetic Fragrances and Chemical Flavorings in Processed Food

A specific and repeatedly emphasized cause is the synthetic fragrance and flavoring compounds added to processed foods. These are fat-soluble plastic molecules, literally plastic fat molecules, that get incorporated into the body's fat tissue and then are expelled through the skin over time, sometimes years after the original exposure. He gives the example of strawberry ice cream: "To make strawberry ice cream smell like strawberry ice cream after it's so processed, they put an artificial perfume in it that is plastic, fat plastic molecules." When those molecules are finally mobilized and expelled, they produce distinct, identifiable odors. He gives the specific example of a woman who smelled like a tomato paste factory, an Italian restaurant, a pizza parlor, because her mother had fed her pizza, tomato soup, and microwaved tomato-based products throughout her childhood. The chemically produced flavorings and fragrances added to tomato sauces, "to make flavor and odor consistent", had accumulated in her body fat and were now being expelled through her perspiration. He describes this odor as being perceptible from 12 feet away: "If she'll start perspiring, you can be from that wall to here, 12 feet away, and you can smell it."

D. Coffee and Stimulant Residues

His girlfriend in Minnesota, who had consumed coffee chronically to manage her chronic fatigue, smelled like "a coffee cafe in an Italian restaurant", specifically like Starbucks, during her detoxification period on the diet. The chemical residues of coffee had been stored in her fat tissue and were expelled through perspiration over an extended period.

E. Pharmaceutical and Vaccine Residues, Including Formaldehyde

Formaldehyde, present in every vaccine ("every shot that you've ever taken has formaldehyde"), and in carpeting, drapes, paint, urea-formaldehyde foam insulation, particle board, pressed wood products, household cleaning agents, paper products, and other ubiquitous sources, accumulates in the body and must eventually be expelled through the detoxification pathways. He describes a man whose hot bath sessions caused him to smell organic solvent toluene coming out of his breath, from his work in a plastic manufacturing plant over 35 years earlier. These chemical residues can be stored for decades before being expelled.

F. The Nature of Fat as the Vehicle

Aajonus repeatedly emphasizes that odor-producing compounds are carried in fat cells: "it's in the fat that stinks, fat cells, once those fat cells have been broken down again and reabsorbed, the odor disappears." The reason industrial and synthetic chemicals produce such persistent body odors is that they are fat-soluble and get stored in the body's fat layer, between the skin layers and the muscle, in the subcutaneous area. Because the body's fat stores act as a repository for toxins it cannot immediately eliminate, these compounds sit in the fat, sometimes for decades, before being mobilized. When they are finally mobilized, they pass through the skin layers, through the 11 layers of skin, through the pores, and the moment they hit oxygen, they create the detectable body odor.

G. Building on Cooked Carbohydrates and Garbage

He makes the point that people who have spent their lives eating cooked carbohydrates, processed foods, and industrial food products have literally built their bodies out of that material. When those cells are finally broken down and discharged, they produce intense, foul odors because the cells themselves are made of contaminated material. "You built on cooked carbohydrates and a lot of garbage, so those cells that are now discharging from you will reek."

H. Grain-Fed vs. Grass-Fed Animal Products

The same principle applies in the food chain. Grain-fed beef, when placed in the same room as grass-fed beef at the same temperature, will turn rank, ferment, turn foul, and stink terribly. The grass-fed beef dries clean without a strong odor. This is because the grain-fed animal has also been building its tissue on contaminated, processed feed, just as grain-fed humans have been building their tissues on cooked and processed food. The principle is consistent from the animal to the human.

I. Candida and Alcoholic Perspiration

He identifies a specific odor linked to candida overgrowth: "a tendency to have perspiration in the crotch that smells alcoholic." This is a diagnostic indicator he uses in clinical assessment, he can identify candida by the alcoholic smell of crotch perspiration, because the body has been forming the toxins bound to something other than sugars.

J. Vaginal Odor as a Detoxification Pathway

In the context of vaginal discharge and odor, he reframes foul vaginal odor not as a disease or infection but as an expression of the body removing toxins through one of the most efficient elimination pathways available to women. "Women have penile envy. Well, now men should have vaginal envy. Because it's healthier. You can discharge a lot of poisons that way. So women, when you find you've got a foul odor down there, just be glad it's leaving your body." He specifically states that many toxins are removed from the vaginal cavity, and that women secrete 20% more mucus to the vaginal cavity than men produce by comparison.

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Why This Happens

Why This Happens

Body odor in Aajonus's framework belongs primarily to the Detoxification of his philosophy, with strong overlap into the Cooked Food (as the primary historical cause), the Terrain Theory (as the expression of internal toxic load), and the Raw Food (as the mechanism by which the diet resolves it).

It fits within the Detoxification because the primary context in which body odor arises on the Primal Diet, and the most frequently discussed scenario, is the release of stored toxic tissue that was accumulated over a lifetime of exposure to cooked food, synthetic chemicals, pharmaceutical compounds, industrial residues, and processed food flavorings. Body odor is the smell of that detoxification happening at the level of the skin, the body's largest organ of elimination.

It fits within the Cooked Food because the baseline, ongoing cause of body odor in the conventional, pre-diet human is the consumption of cooked, processed food. Cooked food putrefies in the body in a way that raw food does not. The odor from cooked putrefaction permeates through the system and exits through every available pathway, including the skin. The absence of this mechanism in raw food eaters, even those who eat extremely foul-smelling high meat and high eggs, is a central demonstration of the difference between raw and cooked food in his framework.

It fits within Terrain Theory because body odor is never attributed to external bacteria attacking the skin. The bacteria that may be present on the skin's surface are not the cause of the odor. The cause is always internal, the quality of what the body is expelling, which is determined by the quality of what was eaten and the toxic load accumulated.

It fits within Sovereignty as well, because he repeatedly and explicitly challenges the commercial and cultural conditioning that makes people afraid of their own natural body odors, treats natural body odors as pathological, and drives them toward the use of toxic soaps, chemical deodorants, and synthetic fragrances, all of which further add to the toxic load that produces the very odors people are trying to eliminate.

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Symptoms Reframed

Symptoms Reframed

Strong Body Odor on the Primal Diet

The standard interpretation of increased body odor when someone starts eating raw meat and raw animal foods would be that the person is eating something "rotten" or "unhealthy" and their body is reacting negatively. Aajonus completely inverts this. When people switch to the Primal Diet and their body odor increases, this is not a sign of deterioration, it is a sign that the body, now properly nourished with bioavailable protein and raw fat, is finally capable of mobilizing and expelling toxic tissue that had been locked in the body's fat stores for years or decades. The body previously lacked the biological tools to perform this task. Now it has them.

As he says to an attendee who raised this: "I know several different people that have gone on the diet, their body odor has increased tremendously. And I believe that the talk is coming out." And he provides the explanation for another attendee: "It isn't because of the meat that you're eating. It's because that once you provide the proteins, your body can dispel a lot of toxic tissue. And that tissue, as soon as it reaches oxygen, will putrefy instantly."

Specific Identified Odors During Detoxification

He reframes specific odors as the direct signatures of specific toxic residues being expelled:

  • Smell of tomato sauce or Italian restaurant: Residue of chemically produced flavorings and fragrances from processed tomato sauces, pizza, and tomato soup consumed over a lifetime, being expelled through the skin during perspiration.
  • Smell of coffee cafe / Starbucks: Residue of chronic coffee consumption, stored in fat tissue, being expelled during the detoxification process on the diet.
  • Smell of toluene in breath: Residue of occupational exposure to toluene (organic solvent used in plastic manufacturing) from over 35 years earlier, being expelled through breath during hot bath and bed-sweating sessions.
  • Smell of acrid chemicals from skin, especially hands, armpits, and under fingernails: Various toxic chemicals being expelled through the skin during hot bath sessions.
  • Alcoholic smell of crotch perspiration: Indicator of candida activity, where the body has bound toxins to something other than sugars, producing an alcohol-like odor in perspiration.
His Personal Experience as an Example

He uses himself as a primary case study and point of contrast. Before the Primal Diet, he describes his own body odor as extreme: "My feet, if I took my shoes off, you could smell them two rooms away when I was so sickly. I stunk. I had to take a bath sometimes two times a day." His brothers all take baths or showers twice a day due to their body odor. He can be around them for 7 days without bathing and not have a problem, his mother can detect a slight odor under his arms, but that is the extent of it.

He also documents his reaction to eating one ounce of cooked meat during an experiment: "The most prominent reaction I had was body odor. I had forgotten that I had that odor daily 3 decades ago. I reeked and had to bath daily instead of every 5 days. I got a slight headache on the 2nd day but do not know if it had anything to do with eating cooked meat. Finally, the morning of the 5th day, I had to smell my shirt armpits to detect the odor. The odor was gone on the 6th day. That was from just one ounce of cooked meat."

This is a remarkably precise documentation: one ounce of cooked meat caused a body odor intense enough to require daily bathing (compared to his normal once every 5 days), and persisted through day 4, becoming barely detectable on day 5, and fully gone on day 6.

The Natural Animal Odor Is Reframed as Healthy and Attractive

He reframes the natural, non-toxic body odor of a healthy animal (human) body, the odor that soap manufacturers and perfume industries have taught people to be ashamed of, as in fact a natural biological signal with important functions:

1. Sexual attractiveness: He cites researchers who study human sexuality and states that the body's natural scent is the primary sexual attractant, "90% of sexual stimulation comes from the nose. Your nose and your gonads are connected." He references the historical practice in 18th and 19th century France of women placing handkerchiefs in different areas of their bodies and dropping them for men to find and smell as a form of sexual signaling.

2. Insect repellent: "If you get around the Maasai, the Samoans, the Fulani, your black people, they have very strong body odors. All tribes people do because it is a repellent to insects."

3. Sign of a healthy, functioning elimination system: Natural body odor is the skin doing its job, discharging cellular waste through perspiration in a form that is not toxic to the environment and is part of a natural biological cycle.

Odor That Does NOT Produce Body Odor

He makes a crucial and counterintuitive distinction: extremely foul-smelling foods, high meat, high eggs, raw kefir, raw yogurt, when eaten in their raw, bacterially pre-digested state, do NOT cause body odor in the person consuming them. "It's funny, it doesn't produce the same kind of body odors that you would think that it might. It might create some bad breath for an hour or two but it won't cause the body odor that you think it might, as stinky as it is." And: "None of the stinky food will create a body odor. Sometimes cheeses will but it's rare. But none of the high meat or high eggs no matter how badly they smell never cause the body to smell. Sometimes if it causes a detoxification of toxic metals into the bowels then you'll have that horrendous metallic smell but it never smells like..." the high meat itself.

The cameraman filming him eat high meat was vomiting from the smell. But Aajonus himself does not smell like the high meat. The food is absorbed, utilized by the body's bacteria, and the odor-producing fat molecules, once broken down and reabsorbed, no longer produce odor.

High Meat That Causes Metallic Smell During Detox

The one exception he notes: if high meat or high eggs cause a detoxification of toxic metals into the bowels, then there can be a "horrendous metallic smell", but this is the smell of the metals being expelled, not the smell of the food itself. It is still a detoxification odor, not an odor from the raw food.

Meat Higher in CLA Causing Metallic Odor and Repulsion

He addresses the specific phenomenon of some people experiencing a repulsion to metallic odors and tastes when eating CLA-rich meats: "When CLA-rich meats are eaten, the glands discard toxins that often include free radicals, causing a repulsion to metallic odors and tastes. The main factor is that your sense of smell is linked to your biochemistry. Our bodies smell the meat and know ahead of time that it will cause a metallic detoxification." Early spring meat, he notes, causes more detoxification in this regard.

People Who Eat Predominantly Tomato-Based or Processed Foods

He describes people who exercise heavily and have eaten processed Italian-style food (chemically flavored tomato sauces, restaurant food) as "reek of old stinky sauces, especially tomato sauces. They have a body odor like the outdoor garbage bin of fast-food Italian restaurants or pizza parlors on a hot summer day. That odor is from chemically produced flavorings and fragrances added to tomato sauces to make flavor and odor consistent."

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Food Protocol

Food Protocol

Primary Remedies for Reducing Body Odor

Aajonus provides an extensive and highly specific set of food-based interventions for managing body odor, ranging from direct dietary changes that address the root cause to short-term remedies for reducing the odor while detoxification proceeds.

Verbatim Protocol Natural Deodorant: - Splash and rub fresh lemon juice under armpits and wipe. - Effective in most cases of very strong body odor. - A drop of ginger juice rubbed into underarms usually creates an alluring fragrance. - One tablespoon of ginger and/or mint juices per quart of green vegetable juices also helps body odor.

Natural Antiperspirant: - Cut pieces of lemon rind and pulp (no juice) and dry in the sun for 30 days. - Grind into a powder. - Brush it into armpits that have been splashed and rubbed with lemon juice.

Verbatim Protocol "Putrid gases produced by the body when dissolving and eliminating old toxic storages can be eliminated, or at least mitigated, by eating fresh raw parsley, or ginger, or peppermint, or spearmint, or fresh raw juice from any of them. Celery juice and unripe pineapple relieve foul body odor."
Pineapple as a Body Odor Sweetener

He states this more personally and specifically in workshop settings: "Pineapple sweetens body odor." However, he adds a critical pairing instruction: "But make sure that you eat the pineapple with fat. Any fruit should be eaten with fat so it doesn't screw up the sugar level. So it goes, time releases into the system so you don't get a sugar reaction."

He also specifies pineapple in the context of vegetable juice for managing body odor in others: they can "put some peppermint or spearmint in their vegetable juice with a little bit of 5% pineapple puree" to help make the odor less offensive to people around them.

Spearmint and Peppermint in Vegetable Juice

Adding peppermint or spearmint to vegetable juice, along with a small amount (5%) of pineapple puree, is recommended as a way to help reduce body odor, specifically when others are complaining about the odor and the person wants some mitigation while the detoxification proceeds.

Celery Juice

Listed as a specific remedy: "Celery juice and unripe pineapple relieve foul body odor."

Fresh Raw Parsley, Ginger, Peppermint, Spearmint, Consumed or Juiced

All four of these are listed explicitly as remedies: "eating fresh raw parsley, or ginger, or peppermint, or spearmint, or fresh raw juice from any of them."

  • Ginger is particularly emphasized both internally (in juices) and topically (a drop of ginger juice rubbed into underarms "usually creates an alluring fragrance").
  • Peppermint and spearmint are recommended both in fresh raw form and as fresh raw juice.
  • Parsley is listed as an option for internal consumption.
Vaginal Odor, Kefir

For foul vaginal odor specifically, he recommends kefir as a way to neutralize the odor and reduce it. He is careful to note this is not to stop the detoxification, "you want to remove those poisons. It's very important to remove those poisons", but the kefir can "take care of the odor a little bit and reduce the odor" as a supportive measure.

Raw Grazed Meat vs. Grain-Fed

He recommends prioritizing grazed/pasture-raised meat whenever possible, because grain-fed beef placed in the same environment will turn rank and stink, creating stronger body odors during detoxification. However, he explicitly states not to avoid grain-fed meat if grazed is unavailable, "Definitely eat it. Because you're still going to be building your body. It's just that you just have to deal with more odors."

Avoiding Cooked Foods, The Root Dietary Change

The foundational dietary change for eliminating body odor in the long term is eliminating cooked and processed food: "Avoiding foods that easily putrefy in your body (cooked and/or processed foods) eliminates body odor." This is the root solution in his framework.

High Meat, High Eggs, Kefir, Do Not Cause Body Odor Despite Their Smell

He repeatedly reassures people that consuming high meat, high eggs, raw kefir, and other raw fermented or bacterially pre-digested animal foods will NOT cause body odor, despite the extreme foulness of their smell. "It might create some bad breath for an hour or two but it won't cause the body odor that you think it might, as stinky as it is." This reassurance is a significant part of his protocol guidance, people should not avoid these foods out of fear that they will make them smell.

Coconut Cream as Topical Application / Soap

For showering and body care, he recommends using coconut cream as the only soap: "one ounce of coconut cream to eight ounces of water" as a shampoo, soap, and body cleanser. He prefers to let the coconut cream sit out in the bathroom unrefrigerated until it turns pink (fermented), then uses it in this ratio. He also uses it as a deodorant, applying it to the skin.

He uses coconut cream as the base of his primal facial body care cream: "one-fourth the dairy cream, one-fourth the butter, and one-fourth the coconut cream, and one-fourth bone marrow, fresh bone marrow." He notes the cream starts smelling slightly gamey after a while but loses that smell within about five minutes of being applied to the skin.

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What to Avoid

What to Avoid

  • i

    He is explicit and emphatic: "Stop using soaps on your body." Commercial soaps are described as destroying the body's natural bacterial environment, introducing toxic chemicals through the skin, and disrupting the natural protective functions of the skin. They do not address the internal causes of body odor and instead add to the body's toxic burden.

  • ii

    He describes commercial soaps as made from "cleaning fluids, ammonia... all made from cleaning compounds. Janitorial equipment." Using these on the skin introduces those chemicals directly into the body.

  • iii

    "Stop using deodorants unless it's lime juice." Commercial deodorants, particularly those containing aluminum (which he explains is present because "aluminum holds things in place... they put aluminum in deodorant to hold it on to the skin, so it just doesn't perspire away into your clothes"), block the skin's ability to perspire and discharge toxins. Blocking perspiration does not eliminate the toxic burden, it forces the body to find other elimination pathways or to store the toxins longer.

  • iv

    He specifically notes: "Unnatural fibers usually have aluminum in them because the aluminum remember aluminum holds things in place." Aluminum-containing deodorants, in his view, compound the problem by both adding a toxic metal (aluminum) to the body and preventing the elimination of other toxins.

  • v

    He frames the entire perfume and cologne industry as a commercial enterprise designed to keep people estranged from their natural body chemistry and in a cycle of masking rather than resolving the internal causes of odor. "So you keep getting us farther and farther away from our natural animal stench. Which should be appealing if you're used to it."

  • vi

    He makes a specific point about the fragrance blocks used in toilets and urinals, synthetic "mothball fragrance things", which he says caused brain tumors in 30-36% of laboratory animals through inhalation alone, not ingestion.

  • vii

    Antibacterial soaps, detergents, kitchen cleaning products, air conditioning systems treated with formaldehyde to prevent mold, and all antibacterial substances are framed as destroyers of the body's natural bacterial environment. "Every time you use a soap, you know, kitchen soap, detergent, ammonia, you're breathing all of those antibacterials in there and you're destroying your bacterial environment in your body."

  • viii

    Synthetic fabrics are described as continuously off-gassing phthalates and other plastic compounds, "you're getting phthalates... you're breathing plastic. Plastic fibers all the time", which, being fat-soluble, are absorbed into the body's fat tissue and then must be expelled through the skin, contributing to body odor. He recommends natural fabrics like silk and wool.

  • ix

    He specifically identifies tomato sauces with chemically produced flavorings and fragrances as a particularly persistent body-odor-producing food category. The odors from these chemicals are stored in fat tissue for years and expelled during detoxification, producing recognizable, distinct odors.

  • x

    His girlfriend's experience demonstrates that chronic coffee consumption leaves chemical residues in the body that will be expelled through perspiration during detoxification on the diet, producing a strong coffee-like body odor that persisted for "two and a half years" before finally clearing.

  • xi

    He explicitly distinguishes between cooked food that putrefies (causes full-body skin odor) and raw food that is pre-digested by bacteria (does not cause body odor). "Cooked foul food that putrefies will make your skin stink just like it does in the bowel. But when it's raw, it doesn't have that effect."

  • xii

    While hot baths are recommended for accelerating detoxification, he notes that when he began smelling acrid chemicals emitting from his skin, especially from his hands, armpits, and under his fingernails, he "began making and consuming" specific foods (the passage is cut off but implies dietary support). The implication is that accelerating detox through heat without dietary support can create uncomfortable chemical odors from the skin.

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Recovery Timeline

Recovery Timeline

The General Process

Recovery from body odor on the Primal Diet is described as a gradual and extended process that depends on: 1. How long the person has been consuming processed, chemically laden foods. 2. The specific types and quantities of chemicals stored in their fat tissue. 3. How consistently they follow the diet. 4. How actively they support detoxification.

He describes it as a highly individual process with enormous variation in timeline.

Short End: Weeks to Several Months

People whose toxic load is relatively modest, or whose specific stored chemicals are not as deeply embedded, may resolve their primary body odor within weeks or a few months of dietary change.

Cooked Meat Experiment, 6 Days

His personal experiment with one ounce of cooked meat provides a precise data point for an acute odor episode: - Onset: Within hours or the same day of eating 1 ounce of cooked meat. - Intensity: Strong enough to require daily bathing instead of every 5 days. - Day 5: Barely detectable (had to smell shirt armpits to detect it). - Day 6: Completely gone. - This was for ONE ounce of cooked meat. He explicitly states he has no interest in repeating the experiment with a pound of cooked meat.

Medium: Two and a Half Years

His girlfriend, who had consumed coffee chronically and who had been on the diet for two and a half years at the time of the workshop, was "just now, after two and a half years on the diet, losing all those strong odors." She was "one of the first people to do that, gain weight, lose weight, gain weight, religiously", meaning her dietary compliance was imperfect, which may have extended her timeline.

Long End: Up to Six Years

"With their odors, I've seen it take up to six years", for people with very heavy toxic loads, particularly those with large quantities of specific synthetic chemical fragrances and flavorings stored in their fat tissue. The woman who smelled like a tomato paste factory had an extremely strong and persistent odor that he implies took considerably longer than average to resolve.

His Own History as a Reference Point

Before the Primal Diet: Required bathing twice a day, feet could be smelled two rooms away when shoes were removed. After years on the Primal Diet: Bathes once every 5-7 days. No odor from feet, crotch, or other typical problem areas. A slight armpit odor that lemon juice resolves. "The only one who detects it is my mother. With her nose, you see."

Expectation Setting

He is realistic that during the Primal Diet, body odor will often increase before it decreases, because the diet provides the biological resources for the body to finally expel the toxic tissue it has been storing. He frames this increase not as a problem but as progress, while simultaneously providing practical remedies (pineapple, peppermint, spearmint, celery juice, lemon juice topically) for managing social situations during the process.

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Questions Aajonus Answered

Questions Aajonus Answered

  • Q: Body odor, I know several different people that have gone on the diet, their body odor has increased tremendously. And I believe that the talk is coming out. Is there a way to help it along so it's not as offensive to people? I know the lemon juice you know, for after your shower.

    A (Aajonus): No [lemon juice alone is not the main recommendation]. They can put some peppermint or spearmint in their vegetable juice with a little bit of 5% pineapple puree. No, it's just a little offensive. But you have to take a look at, if you get around the Maasai, the Samoans, the Fulani, your black people, they have very strong body odors. All tribes people do because it is a repellent to insects. And if you know, if you're around you get used to it. But see, our hierarchy here says, oh, we need to smell like a flower. We don't need to smell like an animal.

  • Q: On the internet chat that deals with your book, there were numerous people on there that commented that after they started eating meat, their body odors changed. And some of the people said that it wasn't that they didn't like the odors. Some people said they didn't mind it. I noticed that same thing to a certain extent and I just wanted to comment on that.

    A (Aajonus): Okay. It isn't because of the meat that you're eating. It's because that once you provide the proteins, your body can dispel a lot of toxic tissue. And that tissue, as soon as it reaches oxygen, will putrefy instantly. It's like I can take the cow's meat that has been grazed and I can take the cow's meat that's been grain fed and you put two together in the room, one will stink and putrefy, not putrefy, it will spoil and ferment and it will stink terribly. The other one that's grazed, that dries clean without a strong odor. You built on cooked carbohydrates and a lot of garbage, so those cells that are now discharging from you will reek. I bathe once every five to seven days and I don't have a problem.

  • Q: [Implied question about high meat causing body odor, raised by the experience of the cameraman vomiting from the smell]

    A (Aajonus): People who eat the high meat don't stink like that. The only trouble you have is you have a cameraman that's shooting it like Ripley's movie or not. He was vomiting from the smell. He tried to use his... But we were on my back porch and there's limited space. So, he had to get pretty close at different angles to observe all this. So, he was puking over my railing. So, I got him some cotton balls with some clove oil in it and put them up his nose. And that's how I got to eat it the first time with the Eskimos. They got me to eat a ping-pong ball-sized amount. But they had to put musk oil on some cotton balls and stuff them up my nose because I was going to vomit from the smell.

  • Q: For showering purposes, is there, you know [what to use], how often should you shower?

    A (Aajonus): Coconut cream will get most of the odors off quicker. I shower, well, let me put it this way, I bathe. I don't like to shower, but I do shower. Sometimes. I bathe once every 5 to 7 days. And guess what? I don't stink. Except in the armpits a little bit, and I'll put some lemon under there to cut the odor. And that's it. But I used to reek. My feet, if I took my shoes off, you could smell them two rooms away when I was so sickly. I stunk. I had to take a bath sometimes two times a day. My brothers all take baths or showers two times a day because of their odor. I'll be around them for 7 days and never take a bath. And the only one who detects it is my mother. With her nose, you see. You need some lemon under your arms. It doesn't smell feet or crotch or anything like that, which is normal for people. I don't have those odors anymore.

  • Q: [On lemon vs. lime for deodorant]

    A (Aajonus): Stop using deodorants unless it's lime juice. Lime juice and lemon juice are okay. Lemon will cause still a little bit of fermentation activity which can cause a slight bit of odor. Lime juice won't. But you can use those as an anti-odor method. It's a deodorant method.

  • Q: [On why he uses coconut cream as soap]

    A (Aajonus): Kinds of chemicals and soaps, what I use is soap, I take coconut cream, and I let it sit out in the bathroom non-refrigerated till it turns pink. Then it has fermented. Then per eight ounces of water I put one ounce of coconut cream, shake that. Dissolves in warm water, and I wet my hair first and my whole body, and then I put that on and that's my soap. Coconut cream and water. One ounce of coconut cream to eight ounces of water. And that's my shampoo, that's my soap, that's everything. Deodorant, these are lemon or lime juice. Lemon works a little better. It's true. But you know unnatural fibers usually have aluminum in them because the aluminum, remember, aluminum holds things in place. So they put aluminum in deodorant to hold it on to the skin, so it just doesn't perspire away into your clothes.

  • Q: [On high meat and high eggs, whether they cause body odor despite their smell]

    A (Aajonus): None of the stinky food will create a body odor. Sometimes cheeses will but it's rare. But none of the high meat or high eggs no matter how badly they smell never cause the body to smell. Sometimes if it causes a detoxification of toxic metals into the bowels then you'll have that horrendous metallic smell but it never smells like [the high meat itself in] the body. The body uses all that bacteria wonderfully.

  • Q: [On what happened with his own cooked meat experiment]

    A (Aajonus, from newsletter): The most prominent reaction I had was body odor. I had forgotten that I had that odor daily 3 decades ago. I reeked and had to bath daily instead of every 5 days. I got a slight headache on the 2nd day but do not know if it had anything to do with eating cooked meat. Finally, the morning of the 5th day, I had to smell my shirt armpits to detect the odor. The odor was gone on the 6th day. That was from just one ounce of cooked meat. I am not interested enough to experiment what would happen if I ate a pound of cooked meat.

  • Q: [On pineapple and body odor, from workshop context]

    A (Aajonus): Pineapple sweetens body odor. But make sure that you eat the pineapple with fat. Any fruit should be eaten with fat so it doesn't screw up the sugar level. So it goes, time releases into the system so you don't get a sugar reaction.

  • Q: [On foul vaginal odor]

    A (Aajonus): Women, when you find you've got a foul odor down there, just be glad it's leaving your body. You can neutralize it with some kefir. Take care of the odor a little bit and reduce the odor. But you want to remove those poisons. It's very important to remove those poisons.

  • Q: [On primal facial body care cream and its odor]

    A (Aajonus): Of course, it starts smelling just slightly gamey after a while. But when it's on the skin and it's been on the skin for about five minutes, it loses that odor, smell.

  • Q: [On how he can tell someone has candida]

    A (Aajonus): Their skin will have little red splotches on it like I told you yesterday. They have very sensitive skin. They have a tendency to have perspiration in the crotch that smells alcoholic, and I just ask them. Because most people do touch themselves and smell it. It's just an animal thing. And whether they know it consciously or not, there are messages that are going when they are doing it.

  • Q: [On the smell of extreme vaginal discharge, black discharge]

    A (Aajonus): Well, in her case, because she was in such a bad condition, it came out black, and the odor could kill an elephant. And I said, that's probably the liver and other glandular tissue dumping. That's how sick your system was. That's going to happen, and every time it happens you say, "That's part of that old dead matter leaving me that's causing me all that pain."

  • Q: [On grain-fed vs. grazed meat and body odor]

    A (Aajonus): If you can't get the grazed-fed beef, are you better off to leave it alone? Oh, no. Definitely. The grain-fed. Definitely eat it. Because you're still going to be building your body. It's just that you just have to deal with more odors.

  • Q: [On CLA-rich meats and metallic odors]

    A (Aajonus): This is common for people with some glandular disorders/toxicity. When CLA-rich meats are eaten, the glands discard toxins that often include free radicals, causing a repulsion to metallic odors and tastes. I use a sauce to combat my repulsion. The main factor is that your sense of smell is linked to your biochemistry. Our bodies smell the meat and know ahead of time that it will cause a metallic detoxification. For some reason, meats that are higher in CLA tend to cleanse the body of toxins, including free radicals and oxidants. Early spring meat causes more detoxification.

  • Q: [On whether high eggs that are aged in clay smell bad]

    A (Aajonus): When they age it in clays like that, the Chinese, it's a very cultured way of doing it so it's not messy, it doesn't stink. OK so it's very socially oriented. OK but let me tell you the stinkier the higher, the more so-called rotten it is, the better. Those eggs, all they taste like is hard-boiled eggs with a bottle of salt, tastes way too salty. It's just the odor again that is horrendous. How do you get them down? Oh, just take them, there's a swimmer's nose clip on your nose.

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Cross-References

How this condition connects to the rest of the platform

Relevant principles

Terrain Theory, and Raw Food.